Wiki I Ching

Conflict 6.4.5.6 7 Discipline

Seek harmony in challenge; resolve with clarity; lead with strength.

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Conflict
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Discipline

Reviewing one's defensive strategy
One thinks that they have made every effort to solve the problem amicably, but others disagree.
One will therefore have to make extra efforts to find a compromise.
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Conflict 6
Conflict arises.
Approach disputes with clarity and fairness.
Seek resolution over victory.
Compromise is key.


Line 4
Accepting circumstances and adapting leads to peace and positive outcomes.


Line 5
Engaging in conflict with a wise and just leader results in the best possible outcome.


Line 6
Temporary gains achieved through conflict are unstable and quickly lost.


Discipline 7
Strategic alignment leads to victory; discipline and structure ensure success.



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Original Readings

6
Conflict


Other titles: Conflict, The Symbol of Contention, Strife, Litigation, Quarreling, Arguing, Lawsuit, "It is important to mind one's step at the very beginning then things will have a chance to work out all right." -- D.F. Hook

 

Judgment

Legge: Stress indicates that despite sincere motivations, one still meets with opposition and obstruction. Maintain an apprehensive caution. To prosecute the contention to the bitter end will produce evil results. It is advantageous to see the Great Man. It is not advantageous to cross the great stream.

Wilhelm/Baynes: Conflict. You are sincere and are being obstructed. A cautious halt halfway brings good fortune. Going through to the end brings misfortune. It furthers one to see the great man. It does not further one to cross the great water.

Blofeld: Conflict. Confidence accompanied by obstacles! With care, affairs can be made to prosper in their middle course, but the final outcome will be disaster. It is advantageous to visit a great man, but not to cross the great river (or sea). [In general, this hexagram indicates that we have little chance of success in any conflict, dispute or lawsuit in which we are now engaged and that retreat is the best policy -- unless line one or five is a moving line, in which case the position is more hopeful. We can profit from the advice of someone truly wise, but a journey of any kind at this time would be disastrous.]

Liu: Conflict; you have sincerity even though obstructed, stop halfway -- good fortune; follow to the end -- misfortune. It is of benefit to see a great man, but not to cross the great water.

Ritsema/Karcher: Arguing , possessing conformity. Blocking awe.

Centering significant. Completing: pitfall. Harvesting: visualizing Great People. Not Harvesting: wading the Great River. [This hexagram describes your situation in terms of a dispute. It emphasizes that actively expressing your claims and objections is the adequate way to handle it. To be in accord with the time, you are told to argue!] (Sic)

Shaughnessy: Lawsuit : There is a return; pitying and tranquil, it succeeds to be auspicious, but in the end is inauspicious; beneficial herewith to see the great man; not beneficial to ford the great river.

Cleary (1): Contention; there is blockage of truth. Caution and moderation lead to good results, finality leads to bad results. It is beneficial to see a great person, not beneficial to cross a great river.

Cleary (2): …Wariness within leads to good results, but ending up that way is unfortunate … etc.

Wu:Litigation indicates an obstruction of trust. If the subject is vigilant, he will have good fortune. If he is libelous to the end, he will face foreboding. It will be advantageous to see the great man. It will not be advantageous to cross the big river.

 

The Image

Legge: The image of water moving away from heaven forms Stress. The superior man, in accordance with this, takes good counsel about the beginning of any enterprise.

Wilhelm/Baynes: Heaven and water go their opposite ways: the image of Conflict. Thus in all his transactions the superior man carefully considers the beginning.

Blofeld: This hexagram symbolizes sky and water in opposition. The Superior Man does not embark upon any affair until he has carefully planned the start.

Liu: Heaven and water go in different directions, symbolizing Conflict. The superior man contemplates the beginning before undertaking an enterprise.

Ritsema/Karcher: Heaven associating-with stream, contradicting movements. Arguing, a chun tzu uses arousing affairs to plan beginning.

Cleary (1): When heaven and water go in different directions, there is contention. Superior people plan in the beginning when they do things.

Cleary (2): … When leaders do things, they plan to begin with.

Wu: Heaven and water go in opposite directions; this is Litigation. Thus the jun zi plans well before taking actions.

 

COMMENTARY

Confucius/Legge: The coming together of Strength and Peril gives the idea of Stress. A dynamic line in the central place in the lower trigram shows how there will be good fortune if one maintains apprehensive caution; but because contention should not be taken to extremes, there will be evil if one prosecutes his contention to the bitter end. The great man sets a value on the due mean. If one attempts to cross the great stream, he finds himself in an abyss.

Legge: The upper trigram of Strength here controls the lower trigram of Peril which is trying to attack it. Or it may also be seen as someone in a perilous situation contending with strong outside forces. The image is of contention and strife. The sincere yang line in the middle of the trigram of Peril gives a character to the whole figure -- an individual so represented will be very cautious and have good fortune. But since contention is bad, even a sincere individual must fail if he pursues it to the bitter end. The fifth line represents the great man, whose agency is sure to be good. His decision in any matter of contention will be correct. The sixth line is also dynamic, but his action is likely to be too rash for a great enterprise, hence the warning about not attempting to cross the great stream.

 

NOTES AND PARAPHRASES

Judgment: Be careful, don't attempt much, and don't allow the situation to get out of hand.

The Superior Man is judicious about his choices of action to ensure that the situation remains stable.

The hexagram portrays a high level of tension. Wilhelm points out that the only "favorable" line is the ruler in the fifth place, and that all of the other lines symbolize people quarreling. It should also be noted that lines one through four counsel either retreat from contention or remaining passively in place. Only line five suggests that an active struggle can have a favorable outcome, and line six portrays the sorry fate of those who insist on "demanding their rights." If we turn the hexagram upside down we have Waiting, which suggests some subtle truths about the proper way to handle stress.

He who has a taste for dispute has a taste for blows,
the man of haughty speech courts destruction.
Proverbs 17: 19

At deciding lawsuits I am no better than anyone else; but what is necessary is to bring about a state of affairs in which there will be no lawsuits.
Confucius

Note that Ritsema/Karcher's summation of the Judgment stands in stark disagreement with the general tenor of the figure: I have never received this hexagram when that interpretation has applied.


Line 4

Legge: The fourth line, dynamic, shows its subject unequal to the contention. He returns to the study of Heaven's ordinances, changes his wish to contend, and rests in being firm and correct. There will be good fortune.

Wilhelm/Baynes: One cannot engage in conflict. One turns back and submits to fate, changes one's attitude, and finds peace in perseverance. Good fortune.

Blofeld: Since the conflict cannot be resolved, it is best to retreat and submit to heaven's will. Peaceful determination brings good fortune.

Liu: One cannot continue the conflict. Returning and changing one's attitude brings peace and good fortune.

Ritsema/Karcher: Not controlling Arguing. Returning, approaching fate. Denying quiet Trial. Significant.

Shaughnessy: Not succeeding at the lawsuit; returning and attending to the command, it changes to peace; determination is auspicious.

Cleary (1): Not pressing one’s contention, one abides by the decree of fate: Changing to rest in rectitude leads to good fortune.

Cleary (2): Contending unvictorious, return to destiny, change to rest in rectitude; then the outlook is good.

Wu: He is not to win the litigation. If his mind returns to reasoning and changes for the good, he will find comfort in being correct. It will be auspicious.

 

COMMENTARY

Confucius/Legge: He does not fail in doing what is right. Wilhelm/Baynes: Thus nothing is lost. Blofeld: Provided we submit to heaven's will, peaceful determination will enable us to win through. Ritsema/Karcher: Not letting-go indeed. Cleary (2): Means not getting lost. Wu: Because there will be no error.

Legge: Line four is dynamic in a magnetic place which is not central -- he has a mind to contend in a position from which he cannot hope to win. Above him is the strong ruler with whom it is hopeless to strive, and below him is his weak ally in the first place from whom no help can be expected. Hence he takes the course indicated, which leads to good fortune. The returning to the study of Heaven's ordinances and changing the wish to contend are not two things, but one. The ordinances are what is right in principle, and since the wish to contend was wrong in principle, it is now abandoned.

 

NOTES AND PARAPHRASES

Siu: The man thinks that belligerency toward his weaker opponents will succeed. But lacking righteousness, he fails in his endeavors. Returning from the path of strife to one of inner harmony with the eternal law, he finds peace and good fortune.

Wing: You might see where you could improve your position by engaging in Conflict with a weaker element. The fact is, though, that you cannot gain inner satisfaction from such strategies. Returning to a sense of dignity and inner worth coupled with an acceptance of your fate will bring you peace of mind and good fortune.

Editor: Psychologically interpreted, the image suggests a situation in which the ego is not yet ready to encounter certain forces involved in the Work. The lesson is to return to an attitude of receptivity to instruction: “Heaven's ordinances.”

It is proper for a man to overlook all the things of the world, for according to those who understand, everything is vain and empty and not worth taking vengeance for.
Maimonides

A. Tame your impulse to act and learn from your restricted situation. "All things come to him who waits."

B. You can't do anything now, so don't even try.

Line 5

Legge: The fifth line, dynamic, shows its subject contending -- and with great good fortune.

Wilhelm/Baynes: To contend before him brings supreme good fortune.

Blofeld: Conflict followed by supreme good fortune.

Liu: Conflict. To submit the conflict to a great man brings great good fortune.

Ritsema/Karcher: Arguing. Spring significant.

Shaughnessy: Lawsuit; prime auspiciousness.

Cleary (1): Contend; it will be very auspicious.

Wu: There is great fortune in Litigation.

 

COMMENTARY

Confucius/Legge: This is shown by his holding the due mean and being in the correct place. Wilhelm/Baynes: Because he is central and correct. Blofeld: This is indicated by the fitting position of the central line. Ritsema/Karcher: Using centering correcting indeed. Cleary (2): Contention is very auspicious when it is balanced and correct. Wu: Because of its central and correct position.

Legge: Line five has every circumstance in his favor.

 

NOTES AND PARAPHRASES  

Siu: The man acts in moderation. By being in the right place he is on the road to good fortune. A just and powerful arbiter may be invited to mediate. Circumstances are in his favor.

Wing: Bring your Conflict before a powerful and just authority. If you are in the right, the situation will end in good fortune and success.

Editor: Because this is the ruler of the hexagram, it is portrayed as a wise judge who settles the matter of contention justly. If it is the only changing line, the new hexagram becomes number 64, Unfinished Business, with its corresponding line depicting a moral victory. One sometimes receives this figure in situations involving third-party arbitration.

If he attains the virtue of the long sword, one man can beat ten men. Just as one man can beat ten, so a hundred can beat a thousand, and a thousand can beat ten thousand.
Miyamoto Musashi -- A Book of Five Rings

A. An affirmation or victory of some sort is indicated.

B. Your argument is persuasive.

C. Seek wise counsel.

Line 6

Legge: The sixth line, dynamic, shows how its subject may have the leather belt conferred on him by the sovereign, and thrice it shall be taken from him in a morning.

Wilhelm/Baynes: Even if by chance a leather belt is bestowed on one, by the end of a morning it will have been snatched away three times.

Blofeld: If a girdle of honor were bestowed upon him, he would be forced to strip it off thrice within one day.

Liu: Even if he receives an ornamental belt, it will be snatched away three times in one morning.

Ritsema/Karcher: Maybe bestowing's pouched belt. Completing dawn three-times depriving it.

Shaughnessy: Someone awards him a leather belt, by the end of the morning thrice strips it.

Cleary (1): Even if one is given a badge of honor, it will be taken away thrice before the day is out.

Wu: He may have been presented with a leather belt. He flaunts it three times in one day.

 

COMMENTARY

Confucius/Legge: He receives a reward through his contention, but still he is not deserving of respect. Wilhelm/Baynes: To attain distinction through conflict is, after all, nothing to command respect. Blofeld: Garments of honor obtained through strife do little credit to the wearer. [Note: In divination, garments of honor may be taken to symbolize any of the prizes obtained through a successful dispute.] Ritsema/Karcher: Using Arguing acquiesces-in submitting. Truly not standing respectfully indeed. Cleary (2): Not worthy of honor. Wu: Nothing worthy of respect.

Legge: Line six is dynamic and able to contend successfully, but is there to be no end of striving? Persistence in it is sure to end in defeat and disgrace. The contender here might receive a reward from the king for his success, but if he received it thrice in a morning, thrice it would be taken away from him again.

 

NOTES AND PARAPHRASES

Siu: The man gains repeated rewards from exhaustive conflicts. But the happiness does not last. The respect is undeserved, and the attacks continue without end.

Wing: If you engage now in forceful Conflict, it is possible you will emerge victorious. However, you will have created a situation of unending contest. Again and again, your position will be challenged. Such triumphs are ultimately meaningless.

Editor: This images a situation in which one may win the battle but lose the war -- a meaningless victory. The line is sometimes received when you are importuning the oracle for information it will not divulge: saying, in effect, "Even if your question were answered, you wouldn't be able to understand it."

For everyone fights for his own falsity and calls it truth ... These, because they can receive nothing of light from heaven, and can therefore inwardly see nothing within themselves, are for the most part ... such as believe nothing but what they see with their eyes and touch with their hands. Hence all the fallacies of the senses to them are truths; and it is from these that they dispute.
Swedenborg -- Heaven and Hell

A. An illusory gain is a net loss. It's impossible to win in a no-win situation.

B. You would rather be right than charitable.

C. You are trying too hard -- stop now.

7
Discipline


Other titles: The Army, The Symbol of Multitude and of Army, Legions/ Leading, The Troops, Collective Force, Discipline, Soldiers, Group Action, A Disciplined Multitude, Ego Discipline, Willpower "Can refer to mourning but its essential meaning is Discipline." -- D.F. Hook

 

Judgment

Legge:Disciplineindicates that with firm correctness and a leader of age and experience, there will be good fortune and no error.

Wilhelm/Baynes:The Army. The army needs perseverance and a strong man. Good fortune without blame.

Blofeld: Persistence in a righteous course brings to those in authority good fortune and freedom from error. [If the enquiry is not concerned with military affairs, we must interpret this hexagram symbolically in the sense that life is a battle.]

Liu:The Army. The army demands perseverance and a strong person (leader). Good fortune. No blame.

Ritsema/Karcher: Legions: Trial. Respectable people significant. Without fault. [This hexagram describes your situation in terms of unorganized crowds or bunches of things. It emphasizes that organizing these things into functional units is the adequate way to handle it. To be in accord with the time, you are told to lead!]

Shaughnessy: The Troops: Determination for the senior man is auspicious; there is no trouble.

Cleary (1): For the leader of the army to be right, a mature person is good; then there is no error.

Wu: The Army indicates persevering. Led by the elder man, it will be auspicious.


The Image

Legge: Water in the midst of the earth -- the image ofDiscipline. The superior man nourishes and educates the people, and collects from among them a mighty army.

Wilhelm/Baynes: In the middle of the earth is water: the image of The Army. Thus the superior man increases his masses by generosity toward the people.

Blofeld: The symbol of water surrounded by land. The Superior Man nourishes the people and treats them with leniency.

Liu: Water in the earth symbolizes the Army. The superior man increases his followers by benevolence toward the people.

Ritsema/Karcher: Earth center possessing stream. Legions. A chun tzu uses tolerating commoners to accumulate crowds.

Cleary (1): There is water in the earth, The Army. Thus does the superior person embrace the people and nurture the masses.

Cleary (2): … Leaders develop a group by admitting people.

Wu: There is water underneath the ground; this is The Army. Thus the jun zi receives people and shelters them.

 

COMMENTARY

Confucius/Legge: Discipline describes the masses who make up the army, and the firm correctness referred to means a morally correct intent. When the leader uses the masses with such correctness, he may fulfill the ruler's will. The focus of strength in the second line is responded to by his proper correlate in the ruler's place. Although action is dangerous, it accords with the best sentiments of men, and although the leader may distress the country the people will still follow him -- there will be good fortune and no error.

Legge: Discipline is symbolized here by the conduct of a military expedition. The arrangement of the lines suggests the idea of a general surrounded by his troops. The dynamic yang line in the center of the lower trigram has the confidence of the magnetic ruler in the fifth place. Entire trust is reposed in him because he is strong and correct. He is referred to as an old and experienced man, hence all of his enterprises will succeed.

Perilousness is the attribute of the lower trigram, and Docility or Accordance with Others, that of the upper. War is like poison to a country -- painful, and potentially ruinous, and yet the people will endure it on behalf of the sovereign whom they love and respect.

In regard to the Image, Chu Hsi says: "As the water is not outside the earth, so soldiers are not outside the people. Therefore if a ruler is able to nourish the people, he can get the multitudes for his armies."

 

NOTES AND PARAPHRASES

Judgment: Discipline directed by willpower and serious intent advances the Work. Or: With experienced judgment and proper will and intent there will be a good outcome.

The Superior Man trains and nourishes his powers to build an invincible unity.

The English word "infantry," meaning foot soldiers (the backbone of any army), is derived from the French word enfant, meaning infant, or child. This ancient association was made because a good military officer was expected to treat his soldiers as if they were his own children -- with a stern but loving discipline designed to improve their character. This concept is what the Image alludes to when it says: “The superior man nourishes and educates the people, and collects from among them a mighty army.” Psychologically interpreted the idea is that the ego-complex is the general officer in the second line that nourishes, educates and controls the other complexes within the psyche. This can only be accomplished through discipline, and thus I have chosen that name for the hexagram rather than the more usual title of The Army.

With the only dynamic line of the hexagram placed in the center of the lower trigram we have an image of the position of the ego-complex in relation to the rest of the psyche. The magnetic ruler in line five represents the Self, isolated from direct physical involvement and dependent upon the dynamic ego to carry out the Work in the material dimension. The seventh hexagram, therefore, shows the Work from the ego's point of view.

Hexagram number eight, Holding Together, is the inverse of this image, and shows the Work from the Self's point of view outside of spacetime. There it is the dynamic fifth line ruler who is the focal point -- an image of the Self surrounded by its satellites. In that dimension the second line ego-complex is only another magnetic complex in the company of other magnetic complexes. Ideally, the lower complexes within the psyche should be magnetic in relation to a dynamic ego, but the ego is always magnetic in relation to the dynamic Self. From the Self's point of view all of its complexes are its magnetic "children," or "infantry." Hexagrams seven and eight should be studied together as reversed images to get a full comprehension of each.

The images in the lines of Discipline all deal with the management of forces as a coordinated whole -- as long as they are under the firm command of the ego (who is only a general carrying out the orders of the Self), things proceed successfully. If the Discipline breaks down and the ego- general loses control, defeat is certain.

Narutomi Hyogo said, "What is called winning is defeating one's allies. Defeating one's allies is defeating oneself, and defeating oneself is vigorously overcoming one's own body. It is as though a man were in the midst of ten thousand allies but not one were following him. If one hasn't previously mastered his mind and body, he will not defeat the enemy."
Yamamoto Tsunetomo -- The Book of the Samurai